Third-World Regress

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fROM Nickes de Landus´ XenoSystems.net is the following:

The latest dark gem from Fernandez opens:

When Richard Gallagher, a board-certified psychiatrist and a professor of clinical psychiatry at New York Medical College, described his experiences treating patients with demonic possession in the Washington Post claiming such incidents are on the rise, it was met with derision by many newspapers’ commenters. Typical was “this man is as nutty as his patients. His license should be revoked.” […] Less likely to have his intellectual credentials questioned by the sophisticates of the Washington Post is Elon Musk who warned an audience that building artificial intelligence was like “summoning the demon”. …

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The point, of course, is that you don’t get the second eventuality without conceding to the virtual reality of the first. The things ‘Gothic superstition’ have long spoken about are, in themselves, exactly the same as those extreme technological potentials are excavating from the crypt of the unimaginable. ‘Progress’ is a tacit formula for dispelling demons — from consciousness, if not existence — yet it is itself ever more credibly exposed as the most complacent superstition in human history, one that is still scarcely reckoned as a belief in need of defending at all.

How does the press warn the public about demons arising from a “master algorithm” without making it sound like a magic spell? With great difficulty because the actual bedrock of reality may not only be stranger than the Narrative supposes, but stranger than it can suppose.

The faith in progress has an affinity with interiority, because it consolidates itself as the subject of its own narrative. (There’s an off-ramp into Hegel at this point, for anyone who wants to get into Byzantine story-telling about it.) As our improvement becomes the tale, the Outside seems to haze out even beyond the bounds of its intrinsic obscurity — until it crashes back in.

… where there are networks there is malware. Sue Blackmore a writer in the Guardian*, argues that memes travel not just across similar systems, but through hierarchies of systems to kill rival processes all the time. She writes, “AI rests on the principle of universal Darwinism – the idea that whenever information (a replicator) is copied, with variation and selection, a new evolutionary process begins. The first successful replicator on earth was genes.” […] In such a Darwinian context the advent of an AI demon is equivalent to the arrival of a superior extraterrestrial civilization on Earth.

Between an incursion from the Outside, and a process of emergence, there is no real difference. [We believe his was called Miracle! — NGE] If two quite distinct interpretative frames are invoked, that results from the inadequacies of our apprehension, rather than any qualitative characteristics of the thing. (Capitalism is — beyond all serious question — an alien invasion, but then you knew I was going to say that.)

… we ought to be careful about being certain what forms information can, and cannot take.

If we had the competence to be careful, none of this would be happening.


 

To the above reproduced Nick Land post one S.C. Hickman replied:

I always remember Fanged Noumena

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“Everything is mediated by elucidations, re-elucidations, elucidations of previous elucidations, conducted with meticulous courtesy…” or “mediation assumes a kind of quarantine, whereby the interaction of organism-specific id and exo-organismic reality can be monitored and negotiated, collapsing libidinal circuitry into a polarity of the psychic and the extrapsychic, inside and outside.”

It’s like progressives think they can turn a blind eye, defend themselves through sheer stupidity and unknowing. While the Bataillean will follow an almost Crowleyian (Alister Crowley) curve and perform the titular rituals of libidinal sigil delegation, monitoring the demons trapped in the cage of psychic and circuit bound energetics. It comes down to that “vanishing mediator”… what medium to use.

The Progressive will always regress into the cage herself not knowing this is the trap the demon set long ago, while the reaction (what a weird name since progress never existed to begin with why would there be a reaction?) reactivated the engine – releasing the demons to perform the tasks set for them by the Sigils (memes).


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NeuRoGothic commentary:

this is all well & good. except, we find trouble in calling those who actually are Nihilists (in that they abandon the foundation of Western Political  Tradition: Plato´s castes & racism) Progressive. if these people (“The Left”) want to revert to pre-Human forms through a devolution, that´s Regressivism, not Progressivism.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nihilism#History

{ Karen Carr describes Nietzsche’s characterization of nihilism “as a condition of tension, as a disproportion between what we want to value (or need) and how the world appears to operate.” }

{ The term nihilism was first used by Friedrich Heinrich Jacobi (1743–1819). Jacobi used the term to characterize rationalism[14] and in particular Immanuel Kant’s “critical” philosophy to carry out a reductio ad absurdum according to which all rationalism (philosophy as criticism) reduces to nihilism }

Progressive used to mean “characterized by advancement” (in action, character, etc.)

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If you want to make the West into a Third-World hellhole that is no proper advance, but a Regressive Leftism; also known as Third-Worldism.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third-Worldism

For the Right we´d like to retain the words of providence. Progress, Professional, Proceedings, Prognosis, Proper, etc.

 

sol ipseity

Solipsis (solipsism) is our way. that of the Herme(s)etically sealed.

honestly though, solipsism — from Latin solus “alone, only, single, sole; forsaken; extraordinary,” perhaps related to se “oneself,” from PIE reflexive root *swo– (see so) + Latin ipse “self” — is exactly the Traditioncall it Hermetic, Heathenry, or other names.
 
this is why our tradition states that if ye become master of your Self, you become the master of the universe. 
 
sol ipsiety. holos ipsus mannus. 
 
it is thus more correct to speak of, against those who live more in fancy than the world, of pseudo-solipsists.
 
the dual-power evola speaks of is the fancy and the worldly. 
 
i am the alpha and the omega,
 
the first and the last.

anonyme Says:

Reversibility of the self and the world:

“The question whether things really exist outside of us and as we see them is absolutely meaningless. … The question is almost as absurd as wondering whether blue is really blue, objectively blue”

It is impossible for a being to undergo the effect of some other without that effect being mutual. … Every effect modifies the object that is its cause. There is no dissociation of the subject and the object – nor any original identity – there is only an inextricable reciprocity”

“Everything happens in the world of the self. This self, within which everything unfolds, resembles in this regard the cosmos of physics, to which the self also belongs by which that cosmos appeared mentally in our representation. … So the circle is complete”

(Georg Cristoph Lichtenberg).

[Posted on Xenosystems.net July 5th, 2016 at 9:26 pm]

rationalism is cancer

in the word of a co-Nexer: These self-styled rationalists are excellent at hedging their bets, exactly like how cancer behaves.

this is phrased so by one Internet user named DIA Operative.

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our commentary: yes, this also applies to people who claim they are not rationalists, but actually are rationalists. (these do exist. we´ve had many debates with such types.)

tl;dr: rationality > rationalism

addendum: in the words of one Milo [Somegreekname]: Feminism [a rationalism] is literally cancer.

CRX

grey Reply:

My take:

NRX is like nanotech AI taking over the internet and micro substructure and installing bitcoin generation machines onto human perception and micromanaging those. In a sense, it’s quite nice. It’s an interesting take which tends toward the microscopic. It’s quite realistic.

HRX is like a giant cylindrical mecha-phallus given power by the humans surrounding it. It’s got giant logos and theme music and it’s even got something like a face. It communicates back to the people surrounding it. It’s very much aesthetic and more or less unashamedly European.

I wonder if there is a central point between the two. Like, CRX. Centrist Reaction. I don’t want to pose this idea too much here. But I have been thinking about it a lot. I wrote a pretty terrible blog post on it a while ago called “New Centralism.” I wanted to give it a flashy name that people would remember – that wasn’t just “New Centrism.” But I realized, this idea of “Centrism” as a political philosophy is actually very interesting. Very powerful. It’s not widely understood. Centrist because, compared to HRX – NRX almost would appear to be “left wing.” However, to NRX, HRX tends to appear to be bigoted.

And not bigoted in the sense of “You aren’t going along with the liberal dogma” bigot. I just mean – bigoted. Like, in as close to a rational sense as I can put it. HRX tends to steamroll over distinctions. Nobody wants to admit it, but it does. It’s actually an unfortunately rare position I think, to see that. But also to realize the value in it – the full value in things like the European New Right for instance. It’s just that I also very much see the value in the notion of artificial intelligence and Austrian economics, and evolution of that type. So CRX could be considered whatever kind of conglomerate ideology manages to emerge from the fusion of those things. But at the same time almost being completely unique.

Obviously by its nature CRX can’t really refer to anything that has already happened – thus it would be defined by experimentation, randomness, and radicalism.

CRX might be able to find a commonality, a real commonality, between what appear to be the dreamlike fantasies of HRX and – in my opinion – the potential nightmares of NRX. CRX is the shrewd political approach. But actually it may also be aesthetic and cultural. Deconstructive. Maybe this is just my background growing up reading Deleuze and Badiou and all that exciting… stuff… and obviously being “liberal” – but I want to bring that exciting and almost deconstructive mentality to whatever the “right” wing is. That avant-garde approach to art, writing, music, film, and activity in general. It’s sorely missing from a lot of right wing groups. The “Alt Right” sometimes seems to show flashes of an interesting artistic awareness, but it usually dissipates into memes. Memes are funny but they have a limit to how “deep” they can get, it seems. Well, the limit is purely imposed.

For whatever reason many of the aesthetic experimentalists are or were on the left. I sometimes wish there was more of a “frontier” spirit to culture on the right. I actually can’t even talk to my old leftist friends anymore because as soon as they realized I wasn’t going along – they literally universally banned me from their lives. I might have great ideas but there is no area within which they can be posited. That’s how things are right now. And I’m not interested in going back.

I just sometimes wish – now that I spend so much time around more right wing people – that they had more of that experimental and radical spirit of just trying weird new stuff and saying “fuck it.” There are some sites that get closer, but certainly not the baseline level of cultural appreciation for sheer nonsense and absurdity. After all, such things are suspected to be “degenerate” or “modern” or whatever. The Platonic forms. I understand that. But part of CRX is kind of this idea, that there is always this risk of infiltration. Almost like if you view the human body as a biological entity, and the idea of a virus or disease. Yet also the idea of spiritual and bodily wellness and diet. Emotional well being.

In this sense CRX very clearly breaks away from right left dichotomy – but still aesthetically and almost intellectually stands with the sort of momentum of the right. Except I think it could be understood as sort of a sprouting and tendency toward upwards, as opposed to a “pull” to the left or right. It understands things as rational and obvious, and values creativity above everything, basically. Creativity not just intellectually, but also as a sort of wondrous potential of the human being and of human populations. It sees current regimes as wasting the possibilities of humans, and wasting the potential of what they are capable of. It doesn’t see society as a conglomerate merely of individuals, nor as a center for worship. It posits – I guess – the potential for a society which is more based on ideas than anything else.

At least that’s what I want it to be. Probably the most easy way of putting it is sort of the poetic and almost deconstructive and experimental aesthetic cultural side.

The weird thing is that liberals have this very serious monopoly on what we’d call “emotional wellness” or sort of like, moral well being. Morality. They appear to be the good guys, and they tell themselves that. When you “go-right” – no matter how rational or reasonable your views may in fact be, you tend to begin buying into their narrative. “I’m the bad guy now. There is something wrong with me.” And on and on. It’s everything. And that narrative, there is a way it takes over you. When you also know, really, is that true? I think a big thing is just taking that narrative away, and really looking at it. Really looking at the idea that right wing people are “bad” and left wing people are “good.” Because it’s there, and it’s very real. And I know that it just isn’t true, so why does it have so much power? Enough power to sometimes override people entirely. It’s false. Such myths must be obliterated.

Obviously I’m a bit insane but I take it with some pride, and try to proudly walk lines that don’t usually lens themselves over the well, Wall.